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OK , But NO!
I understand completely what you're saying about the pleasure aspect of smoking. But what you don't realize is that this is the brainwashing your mind has become accustomed to. You can thank subliminal advertising of the past, stupid people you surround yourself with, and your own mind. You should be smart enough to know that smoking, in short, equals death. If you choose to smoke, that's fine...but to go out of your way to make a website about the joys of smoking and how to start smoking...you have serious problems. How does that make you feel that you might have encouraged these young people to start smoking and in turn, years later they die of lung cancer, emphysema, cardiac arrest, or oral cancer. Not to mention the difficulty breathing, yellow teeth, bad breath, dark circles under the eyes, lack of oxygen, and impotence (among many other things!) The sad part about the author of this site is that he or she was too mentally weak to quit smoking, so he or she decided to turn it around and fully embrace death from a weed that grows from the ground.
who is it that's being brainwashed?
think it over...
Come now, don't mindlessly believe what you see on tv.
not smoking will STILL kill you.
I hope you realize
Just because you don't smoke doesn't mean you'll live forever. Nonsmokers can still die at young ages too, especially if they're kids in urban cities. I think I'm more concerned about a bullet killing me than a cigarette. And you don't have to smoke in order to become a crime victim.
BTW, I hope you're aware of these sites online that point out people who smoked and lived for 100 years or more. I even read online once that Japanese smokers live longer than USA smokers. I'm sure (if there's any truth to that) it's not because of what those smokers in Japan smoke. It has more to do with the Japanese having healthier diets than Americans.
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even though no one lives forever, wouldn't you rather live healthy then a sick horrible life?
it wont be that bad
you dont abviously relize wat smoking can do to your body
Uhm.
...Oh god your grammar is so poor I'm honestly thinking you're a troll. If you're for real, I'll quote the saying "Whatever floats your boat." Just because some people smoke, it doesn't mean it's a good idea to constantly harrass them. Some people just want something new and pleasurable in their lives. This site is for them. You're the kind of person who coughs loudly deliberately near smokers to just make a point. People who just HAVE to raise a complaint or issue with other people when they're not doing anything that's harming you are just... *head-desk*.
people
man u r sooooo right people need to get over these horrible addictions... all the things it does to ur body
1. bad breath
2. CANCER!!
3. bad weight
loss
4. bad peer
pressure
What about heroinfeelsgood.com
A heroin addiction is far better!
people these days
yall are all crazy if u think its actually good for you!!
It's not good but nothing
It's not good but nothing really is good for us. If it's not lung cancer from smoking, it's stress cancer, lung problems from all the pollution, obesity from eating fast-food and so many other things that can kill us slowly, just like a cigarette. I said "it can" not "it will surely" kill us. Stop breathing if you think smoking is so bad. The air you inhale is worse.
Read This
Statistics say that only 1 in every 5 people who dies of lung cancer were actually smokers... SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER FOUR???????????????????????? THEY DIDNT SMOKE.. BUT STILL MORE NON SMOKERS DIE OF LUNG CANCER THAN SMOKERS??? HOW YOU EXPLAIN THAT????????????
cos the rest died from
cos the rest died from second hand smoke- smoke doesnt just harm the smoker/ got the cancer genes from their parents/grandparents/great-grand parents who smoke. think about it. the lung doesnt go dead on you for no good reason. you may want to go find out more about cancer. dont wait till when u hear the diagnosis then you find out more abt it, it'll be too late.
source of information: im a nursing student and im dead serious about smoking kills. i also find it silly that ppl say life is too short to not enjoy. there are better ways of enjoying it than to shorten it further.
Show me the proof
And where's your proof dat the otha 3 people died from SHS? Do you got their death certificates dat specifically state inhaling SHS caused em to die?
Show me some proof that even SHS (let alone lung cancer) kills anyone. And I don't mean showing me fake numbers from antismokng sites. I heard dat one before on how 45,000 nonsmokers die from SHS per year. How many of em die from traffic/drunk /riving accidents per day?
Anyone with common sense would realize if SHS really does kill, people would've been dying from SHS inhalation decades ago. So I do not believe 3 in 4 people die from SHS inhalation.
scary to think your gonna be a doctor/nurse
Wow id be far more afraid for my life if i had to be your patient than my smoking. If you actually believe in second hand smoke your stupid. It was proven to be less toxic than chlorinated water, having a relative risk of around 1.2 when in order for most toxins to be considered dangerous they have to have a rating of 3 or more. How would it even make sense that 4 times as many people die from second hand smoke than smoking itself, at least 20% of people smoke, that idea would mean the average non-smoker is nearly as likely to get cancer from the tiny amount of shs they breath as a smoker who inhales cigarette smoke consistently each day. Smoke up everyone, only pleasure youll have in this world with people like this that cant even decide things for themselves, just listen to the government feed bs. Here are some links anti-smokers should take a look at before they judge.
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/eppp-archive/100/201/300/cdn_medical_association/cmaj/vol-160/issue-2/0180a.htm
http://www.forces.org/evidence/epafraud/etsfrau.htm
http://www.forces.org/evidence/epafraud/files/blow.htm
http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv21n4/lies.pdf
look over your statistics,
look over your statistics, do they say that ALL 4 of these people where passive smokers? DO you also know that exaled smoke is about 300% harmfull than the original smoke of a burning cig? Now who's fault is really that?
P.S not only non smokers breath second hand smoke you know, if you are not worried about that it's about time you start.
smokingcrackfeelsgood.com is
smokingcrackfeelsgood.com is still my favourite.
Promoting something that's addictive and overall, negative isn't moral.
I agree, crack is overall negative.
I agree, crack is overall negative. Smoking cigarettes is overall, a net positive.
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The psychology of the
The psychology of the content in this site goes waaaay beyond the health issues associated with smoking.
There's no point in lecturing to the author of this site about the health risks of smoking - surely you're aware of them. But I have to wonder, if you're unlucky enough to be one of those smokers who, instead of dying relatively quickly of say a heart attack or lung cancer, you instead get to live the last ~10 years of your life tethered to an oxygen tank wheezing & gurgling with every breath yet unable to cough up any of the decades' worth of yumminess deposited in your lungs, maybe even lacking the lung capacity to absorb the nicotine you crave. Yeah, that's an extreme case but it can happen. If you get to that point, I wonder if you'll still say "Im glad I smoked". [Hint: you won't and if you insist otherwise you're just kidding yourself.]
Yeah, that's an exceptional case but no one goes to Vegas expecting to become penniless, but I'm sure everyone who ever lost it all wishes they never gambled.
You'll also never get an STD
You'll also never get an STD or an unplanned pregnancy if you never have sex. You'll never get alchohol poisoning if you never drink. You'll never get in a car accident if you don't drive. You'll never clog your arteries and suffer a heart attack or develop diabetes if you never eat junk food.
And then, at age, 125, when you're being interviewed by the local paper about your exceptionally long life, I wonder if YOU'LL still say "I'm glad I didn't indulge in any vices".
We're all gonna die, and for most of us it's not going to be pleasant (that's the curse that comes with the marvel of modern medicine); it's going to be gasping for breath choking on some sort of bodily fluid that's found its way somewhere it shouldn't, or gagging on our tongues as some vital organ shorts out. The only difference between smokers and nonsmokers is that nonsmokers get 20 more years of existence, and SMOKERS get 40 more years of LIVING.
Living
That's the kinda stuff I like to hear, the reason I keep coming to this website.
You, sir, have won the
You, sir, have won the internet.
If you're gonna compare
If you're gonna compare gambling to smoking, at least use common sense. If someone lost all of his/her income in gambling in Vegas, that person would be homeless. I think if people lose "gambling money" they don't become broke literally. And most gamblers are smart not to gamble away money they can not afford to lose.
I notice the author of this site happens to be a fan of me. Since my links page AND my blog are both linked on here.
Pros Vs. Cons of Smoking
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Pro's of Smoking
There are no pro's to smoking. People only continue to smoke through a process of negative reinforcement. Quite simply, a smoker is drug addict. There are no pro's in having that next cigarette, only the illusion of pleasure to reach the state that non-smokers enjoy all oif the time. I know my subject. It is easy for people to quit the drug addiction once they fully understand how the con works.
a second opinion
"A person must have the right to either choose to smoke or not to choose to smoke"
problem is that once you are a smoker you don't have the choice to stop any more. isn't this the reason why you made this website? to try to justify why you are still doing it? come on! i am a smoker too and i hate it. i must admit that i am to scared to quit, but at least i don't kid myself like this. stop hiding under the freedom statement and come out as a man: you failed in quitting and now you try to convince everyone that it is a good thing. if others believe it, you wouldn't feel so stupid.
is either this or you are selling cigarettes.
Smoking REALLY is pleasurable you know
Who are you to transfer your own self hatred of smoking and automatically give judgement like that. Your really not the voice of authority if your too scared to even TRY. Sure youfeelsick, crave like a bastard and even start coughing up disgusting gack when u quit but it doesnt exactly stop you from quiting if u hate it that much.
Stop hiding under the sympathy statement and just quit like a man.
kudos for opening my blind
kudos for opening my blind eyes with your wisdom. i am not angry at the guy who is trying to get young people to smoke, but i am angry at myself.
smoking must be pleasurable. otherwise why would people do something that kills them?
Get a grip.
You're simply a troll and didn't even read the stuff on this site - like the tobacco policy statement. Please become more informed before posting.
Doug
I do love to smoke myself
I do love to smoke myself and I know that its bad for me. I also have sex though because I like it and thats bad for me as well becasue I'm gonna end up with another <a href="http://yourstdhelp.com">STD</a> and thats no fun at all.
Addicted and loved it while I could afford it.
I too enjoy smoking, knowing it's negative effects wasn't what made me quit in the end, it was the fact that in Ontario a pack costs the better part of $10 (some brands are even more than that) made it so I just couldn't afford it anymore even at half a pack a day, and the cheap smokes you get from the indian reserves (which are illegal for non-indians like me to buy) just taste too awful. Score one for the anti-smoking policy of "LETS MAKE THEM SUPER EXPENSIVE SO PEOPLE HAVE TO QUIT!" I just want to say thanks to the anti-smoking campaigns for taking away my freedom to do something I enjoy. I also play the trombone and while maybe if I'd never smoked I might be able to hold notes on it far longer, it had never had a noticeable affect on my playing (I still don't know anyone who can hold a high b as long as I can, non-smokers included). Here's to hoping one day some people realize some of us actually can enjoy something they're addicted to. I'm craving right now, practically nicfitting after reading the stuff on this site. I can assure you I wouldn't be in the mental state I am in now if cigarettes weren't so expensive that I'd end up homeless if I picked it back up and could just smoke at a reasonable price. I don't mind paying a dollar or two in taxes per pack, but when the majority of the cost is tax just to make people quit, that's unreasonable.
100% of smokers die.
100% of non-smokers die.
Everyone is entitled to do
Everyone is entitled to do what they want. It's not rocket science. We know that the health risks are heightened when you smoke. I am telling you that smokers really do enjoy smoking. Just not all the time. I don't care what you tell me, but having a cigarette feels really good when you our at a bar drinking with friends. However, you cannot tell me that you really enjoy having a cigarette outside in the rain at three in the morning because you can't go to sleep.
Smokers are intellegent. They know the potential health risks. I smoked for ten years before I quit. My reasons for quitting had to do with beating nictotine addiction and becoming more health conscious. However, if you told me that there were no health risks in smoking cigarettes, then I would've not have quit.
P.S. Please get rid of these anti-smoking ads because all they did do is provoke smokers to continue smoking. So if you non-smokers think these ads will help smokers quit. They don't.
Everyone has the right to do
Everyone has the right to do what they want. Very true, we only live for a little while before our time is up, so we might as well enjoy life as much as we can. That said, if what one chooses to do can potentially damage (severely) the lives of others, that's when it becomes an issue.
I have severe asthma, and I'm sure if I didn't have to walk past hundreds of smokers on campus everyday, I wouldn't have to put up with my daily near-death asthma attacks. Smoking is selfish, and thus, it shouldn't be allowed (in public anyways.)
hello
all of you that thinks it good for you and that it soooo fun or something like that ur crazy u need some kind of checkup cause if you dont smoke and take care of ur body u can live for much longer than u can if u do smoke so u actually think about what ur doing to ur body...... Do you want to die at age 39.
Excuse me you little antismoker
I have a Q. Do you know ANY smoker that died at 39 or under 39?
I dunno where you get your math skills at, but they're very poor young person. Antis claim smokers live for 40 years after starting smoking. So there's NO WAY a smoker could die at or before 39 unless that person gets murdered.
I did hear of a 25 year-old nonsmoking woman who never smoked in her life, but she still died from lung cancer at that age. I smoke and I outlived a person who never smoked in her whole life! Smokers live longer than nonsmokers. If you don't believe me, you can visit the Smokers Club site.
This makes no sense.
*Antis claim smokers live for 40 years after starting smoking. So there's NO WAY a smoker could die at or before 39 unless that person gets murdered.*
Only an idiot (like yourself, although i'm obvious not saying that you would suggest this) would claim that 'smokers live for 40 years after starting smoking' and think that it a reasonable claim; i think what the actual claim is that 'an average smoker loses around 13 years of life on average compared to a non-smoker', and there will be a range of loss of years of life around this, this means that a smoker could die 20 or 30 or 40 years earlier that expected, but with a much lower probability, you could even only smoke once and get lung cancer straight away after that. Anyway the point here is that a number from a statistic isn't stating an exact value, but only an expected value with a range around it.
*I did hear of a 25 year-old nonsmoking woman who never smoked in her life, but she still died from lung cancer at that age.*
You heard of a 25 year-old nonsmoker that died from lung cancer? This proves absoluted nothing, you've observed one statistic, which gives nearly zero evidence to support any conclusion.
'I smoke and I outlived a person who never smoked in her whole life!' , here we go, another one statistic. My nan smoked and she's still alive, but i knew someone who had a baby that died at birth and it never smoked, whoa, this must mean smoking is the key to being alive! Obviously this is just a mockery or you're poor skills at drawing conclusions from information or events.
'Smokers live longer than non-smokers', this is brilliant, you got this from the 'Smokers Clud site', likely to be giving unbiased information about smoking (sarcasm intended). What would be better to look at would be peer-reviewed papers in respected medical journals that actually have real information in them.
You should really think about things before making such irrational conclusions, otherwise you're going to end up with a lot of problems in your life.
Hello antismoker
"You heard of a 25 .566year-old nonsmoker that died from lung cancer? This proves absoluted nothing, you've observed one statistic, which gives nearly zero evidence to support any conclusion."
And what have YOU observed that can prove secnodhand smoke kills? The fact someone died from LC and neva smoked before is proof that just because you don't smoke does not mean you'll live a long life. In case you're an idiot too, some of the comments I've read on here implies that not smoking makes you live longer.
Where's that proof at? The proof that not smoking makes you live longer? Based on where I live at, it's common for nonsmokers to not reach the age of 20 before they get killed. Some of the oldest people to ever live were smokers. Some people even live for 100 years and still smoke. You don't have to believe me. You can do the same type of research (on the oldest people to live) I've done over the years off of the net.
I guess if a nonsmoker is a crackhead or an alcoholic, you don't have to worry about him/her living for 80 years, let alone 100.
If you honestly believe you'll live forever just cause you don't smoke, I hope your family's cancer history or crime both don't kill you first.
BTW, my life is good, thank you very much. It's not my fault your IQ is lower than mine.
Even if it does take 40
Even if it does take 40 years to die from smoking, like you claim... who wants to live their life with yellow teeth, chronic coughs, and all sorts of other complications? Maybe they're not fatal, but they're still disgusting.
And saying that smokers live longer than nonsmokers is asinine. Why don't you try finding some actual data to back that up?
Well....
...I understand that smoking is perceived as pleasurable.
When you haven't had a dart and are craving, that mental swtich gets hit when you get a smoke, and your craving is gone, which can be perceived as relaxing.
Myself, I don't find when my blood pressure goes up, or my heartbeat increases, as pleasurable things.
I quit because I decided to one day, told EVERYONE, even people like my parents that didn't know I smoked, that I had quit after almost 20 years. Saving face means a lot to me with my friends and family, and considered that my support group.
I also smoke copious amounts of weed, which helped me bunk the tobacco.
After a while after I quit, with zero support from my GF who still has the blinders on, and tried as I might, I didn't want to be a hypocrite for wanting to dump her because the smoking became such a turn off. After hears of having "the smell" on my clothes, carpets, PAINT YELLOWING, I said:
Fuck tobacco companies getting ANY MORE of my money.
Fuck people who try to get you to start again.
Everyone else, do what you want, but please keep it a distance and I promise to stop farting in elevators so you don't have to feel like we are BOTH giving up something we love that everyone else hates.
The sight made me laugh, and was kind of like a virtual cigarette for me, which was kind of relaxing (since I had no heartbeat/hypertension issues with this one).
#include willpower
main(quit)
{
//stop smoking people.
}
@end
Mark
I think this is the best comment on here... I'm in the same boat. I quit smoking and now all of a sudden all of my friends are quitting because I stopped enabling them. I also smoked the weed to help w/ the habit - point in case is i still consider smoking to be pleasurable, it is... but when you quit, and you realize what kind of royal bitch these sleeves turn you into... it changes your perspective.
Without a cigarette I became a raging bitch, and it was enough for me to realize that wow, addiction sucks ass. Now, it repulses me, even the smell (which btw taste and smell are 20x better now that I've quit).
I agree w. you, the government has NO RIGHT to interfere with my business... obviously they haven't started taxing or regulating the food we eat or the alcohol we consume *I'm sure thats next* but we should be able to decide what kills us. Freedom is an interesting thing - something this administration doesn't believe in.
I will never support more taxing on cigarettes, its asinine.
"I agree w. you, the
"I agree w. you, the government has NO RIGHT to interfere with my business... obviously they haven't started taxing or regulating the food we eat or the alcohol we consume *I'm sure thats next* but we should be able to decide what kills us."
Oh but the government has. There is an excise tax on alcohol and there is a tax proposed by the Obama administration towards soda.
Sometimes I smoke and other times I don't but I hate when big government tries to control our private lives.
IDK
I love the website but i find it wrong, Smoking wont kill you having the cancer gene kills you smoking just helps it along my grandmother has smoked for 50 years and she is fine and know one in her family has ever had cancer or heart problems so i think its genetic.
This website is bad because
This website is bad because you're teaching teenagers to do bad things. Basically, letting them die in 2 years.
You don't realize it, but you're killing 400,000 people each year.
2 Years?
Wow... considering most antismoking groups state that smokers will live for another forty years after they seriously take up smoking I find it interesting that suddenly they're all kicking the bucket in two years! You know, I smoke every now and then and enjoy it but I do know it is a disgusting habit. My sister smokes as well and I'm not too happy about that but I've never said a thing to her about it because I'm not an idiot. If you dislike smoking, fine, goody for you everyone has a right to an opinion. However, I am against bigoted assholes who will make up statistics out of thin air just because they believe that they are right and everyone else is wrong (whether it applies to smoking, religion, race, etc).
If you want smokers to start coming up to you every time you eat at McDonalds, every time you eat a chocolate bar, every time you throw out a plastic wrapper or container, every time you drive your car, every time you leave the water running when you brush your teeth and launch into a speech about how not only are you killing yourself but you're setting a bad example for children, polluting the world, wasting resources, and killing others then please, continue to approach them and tell them what terrible people they are and how they are killing themselves and everyone else on planet Earth. Smokers KNOW how bad smoking is for them. Its right on the package. They don't need you coming up and telling them something they've known since they were eight years old. You marching up and self-righteously (and ignorantly) complaining that smoking is horrible and will kill them immediately is the absolute last thing that is going go make them stop so why would you continue to do it? Don't even start on second-hand smoke. Yes, it is harmful if a person is exposed for an extended period of time however with new restrictions on restaurants, bars, businesses and such the most second-hand smoke you're ever likely to encounter is the whiff you get as you walk by a group of smokers outside a mall or restaurant which is about as deadly as only walking into a McDonalds, nevermind eating something there.
There really is nothing worse than a huge amount of self-righteous zealots who are also completely and absolutely ignorant about what they are being so zealous about. If you oppose smoking, fine, keep it to yourself.
As a post script the author of this site specifically states that it is illegal for teens under 18 to smoke and that smoking is addictive and harmful to your health and that they should not start. If a teen chooses to ignore those warnings then it is his responsibility, not the Admin's.
Light it up
Plain and simple, smoking feels good. It really does. I started smoking just the other week at age 24 and I have noticed an improvement in my mood and general outlook on life. I didn't pick up on smoking because of peer pressure. I'm past that age of being influenced by my peers. Previously, I used to find myself very depressed about everything in my life. Smoking has helped me feel less burdened by life's problems. Whenever I feel down and dull, I just light it up and puff away my issues. We all know for a fact that even Obama smokes. Why would such an intelligent harvard alumni like Obama smoke? Well, it is because he knows if feels good. Its a personal choice and as long as its not done under peer pressure and after due consideration its fine. The key to it all I think is doing it in moderation.
Depression
There are safer (and cheaper) anti-depressants than smoking tobacco. See a shrink and get some Paxil. See a good therapist.
light it up
I totally agree with you that moderation is the key! I smoke between 4-8 Newports a day and totally love it. I'm completely healthy too
everyone needs to smoke
everyone needs to smoke. since the government has made tobacco regulation a crusade in the U.S. teen pregnancy has went up, more war, more rapes per year, more sexually transmitted diseases, teenagers become sexually active earlier than ever, etc. etc. etc. clearly, this is because people don't smoke. just look at the stats: less smoking, more teen pregnancies.
think that's absurd? then how absurd is it for the government to tell smokers that no one should smoke because people who do are more likely to get lung cancer, when we all know that people who have little or no history of cancer in their family probably aren't gonna get cancer whether they smoke or not.
yeah. suck that. and by that i mean a marlboro smooth. mmmmm.
this site ...
this is the worst site I have ever come across. smoking is the worst thing a person can do to their body. This website is so dumb I can't believe this is on the web. These days everyone is trying to stop smoking. It makes you older, smell bad, have wrinkles, not to mention the wonderful lung benefits...omg great website nice job promoting.
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You Are Full Of It!
OK. So you say this site is the worst, huh? You just can't believe it. Oh, my God it is sooooo bad!! Really??? Tell us, please, how the hell did you end up on this particular site in the first place? And, don't give us the worn out "research" answer. Or, you were surfing the web and "just happened" onto this site. Christ, those lines are such BS!
You are here because you are a smoker. You crave your next cloud maker so much - and it hurts so good. You love to smoke and society is crushing your desires with all the anti crap. They are making you feel so guilty that you are lashing out at us, hoping to spread the guilt because misery loves company. You're angry. We freely enjoy what you are depriving yourself of.
Well, we really do love to smoke. And it actually DOES feel so damned good that you can't handle it. How can something so wonderful be as bad as the antis want you to believe? Did you ever consider that many of them might just be so jealous (prob. ex-smokers) that they want to ruin it for everybody else? You know, just like you?
C'mom friend. Chill, relax, lay back and have a good, long smoke. You'll see things in a whole new light! There, that's right - deeply and hold it.......aaaaahhhhh.
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Keep it to yourself?
I'm a smoker
It's fine that you enjoy smoking and that you accept the risks.
If you share your passion with others, you might influence some to join in.
Why would you do that?
I worked in the health field and witnessed a man dying from emphysema caused by cigarettes right in front of me.
Like I said, I'm a smoker but I will never encourage someone to take it up.
I'm just curious to understand what is your angle.
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